Conversation of God Kabir (Kavir Dev) with Kaal (Brahm)

God Kabir

Conversation of God Kabir (Kavir Dev) with Kaal (Brahm)

God Kabir's conversation with Kaal

When the Supreme God (Parmeshwar) created all the brahmands and took rest in His lok, after that we all while living in Kaal’s brahmand started experiencing the punishment of the sinful deeds done by us and started remaining very distressed. We started wandering in search of happiness and peace, and started missing our home Satlok, and commenced bhakti to go there.

Someone learnt all the Vedas by heart; someone started practicing fierce tap (austerity) and started activities like hawan, yagya, dhyaan, Samadhi (meditation) etc, but could not go to our real home Satlok because by doing the aforesaid activities, after attaining good and prosperous lives in next births (like, King-Great King, a big businessman, official, Dev-Mahadev, Heaven-Great Heaven etc), we started going in the cycle of 84 lakh births of various living beings. We started remaining very distressed and started requesting to the Supreme Father God (Purna Pita Parmeshwar) that Oh Kind God! Show us the path to our home. We do your bhakti from heart. Why are you not appearing before us?

Narrating this account to Dharmdas Ji, God Kabir said that Dharmdas, on hearing the calls of these living beings, I, adopting the appearance of Sahaj Das, came to Kaal lok from my Satlok. At that time in the twenty-first brahmand, where Kaal has his own house, the living beings were being roasted on the Taptshila (hot rock) and the grime from their immaterial/subtle bodies was being taken out. On my arrival, their burning ended. On seeing me, they said that Oh Purush (God)! Who are you? Just by having a sight of you, we are feeling a lot of comfort and peace. Then I told them that I am PaarBrahm Parmeshwar Kabir. You all living beings have come from my Lok and become trapped in Kaal Brahm’s lok. Everyday, this Kaal takes out the grime from the immaterial/subtle bodies of one lakh human beings and eats it, and then later leaves them to bear the punishment in different kinds of births. Then those souls said that Oh Kind Parmeshwar! Please rescue us from the jail of this Kaal. I told them that Kaal has obtained these brahmands from me by doing bhakti three times. And all these things which you are using here are of Kaal, and you have come to roam here by your own wish. Therefore you have a lot of debt of Kaal on you and it cannot be paid off without the jaap of my true (sachcha) naam.

Until you become free from debt, you can not go out of Kaal Brahm’s jail. For this you will have to do bhakti by taking naam updesh from me. Then I will rescue you and take you with me. As we were discussing this, Kaal Brahm appeared there and he attacked me furiously. I made him unconscious by my word power. Then he regained consciousness after some time. He fell at my feet and started begging, and said that you are elder to me, have some mercy on me and tell me that why have you come in my lok? Then I told Kaal Purush that some souls want to return to their actual home Satlok by doing bhakti. They are not finding the path of true bhakti. Therefore even after doing bhakti, they remain in this lok only. I have come to guide them the path of true bhakti and to disclose your secret that you are Kaal; you eat one lakh human beings and produce a lakh and a quarter human beings, and are behaving like God. I will tell them that whose bhakti you do, he is not God, is Kaal. On hearing this, Kaal said that if all the souls will return to Satlok, then what will happen to my food? I will starve. It is my request to you to take less number of souls in the three yugas and to not disclose my secret to everyone that I am Kaal; I eat everyone. When Kaliyug arrives, take as many souls as you wish. Kaal took these promises from me. Telling further to Dharmdas, God Kabir said that I had also come in Satyug, Tretayug and Dwaparyug, and took many souls to Satlok, but did not disclose his secret. Now I have come in Kaliyug and I have had a conversation with Kaal. Kaal Brahm said to me that now no matter how hard you try, nobody will listen to you. First of all, I have not left any living being worthy of doing bhakti. I have spoilt their conduct by instilling bad habits of smoking bidi - cigarette, drinking alcohol and eating meat etc. I have engaged them in different types of pretentious ways of worship. Secondly, when after imparting your knowledge, you will return to your Lok, I (Kaal) will send my messengers and starting twelve Panth (sects) similar to your Panth, will mislead the living beings. They will sing the glory of Satlok, will narrate the knowledge given by you, but will do jaap of my naam. As a result of which, they will become my food. On hearing this, God Kabir said that you try your ways, I will go back only after telling the true path (way of worship) and one, who will listen to my knowledge, will never be misled by you.

Satguru God Kabir said that Oh Niranjan! If I wish, I can end your whole game in a moment, but by doing this I break my promise. Thinking this that imparting true knowledge to my beloved hans and granting them the power of Shabd, I will take them to Satlok, said that —

सुनो धर्मराया, हम संखों हंसा पद परसाया।
जिन लीन्हा हमरा प्रवाना, सो हंसा हम किए अमाना।।

(In Holy Kabir Sagar, description of different ways of putting the living beings in a maze and of satisfying own hunger)

द्वादस पंथ करूं मैं साजा, नाम तुम्हारा ले करूं अवाजा।
द्वादस यम संसार पठहो, नाम तुम्हारे पंथ चलैहो।।
प्रथम दूत मम प्रगटे जाई, पीछे अंश तुम्हारा आई।।
यही विधि जीवनको भ्रमाऊं, पुरुष नाम जीवन समझाऊं।।
द्वादस पंथ नाम जो लैहे, सो हमरे मुख आन समै है।।
कहा तुम्हारा जीव नहीं माने, हमारी ओर होय बाद बखानै।।
मैं दृढ़ फंदा रची बनाई, जामें जीव रहे उरझाई।।
देवल देव पाषान पूजाई, तीर्थ व्रत जप–तप मन लाई।।
यज्ञ होम अरू नेम अचारा, और अनेक फंद में डारा।।
जो ज्ञानी जाओ संसारा, जीव न मानै कहा तुम्हारा।।

(Statement of Satguru)

ज्ञानी कहे सुनो अन्याई, काटो फंद जीव ले जाई।।
जेतिक फंद तुम रचे विचारी, सत्य शबद तै सबै बिंडारी।।
जौन जीव हम शब्द दृढावै, फंद तुम्हारा सकल मुकावै।।
चौका कर प्रवाना पाई, पुरुष नाम तिहि देऊं चिन्हाई।।
ताके निकट काल नहीं आवै, संधि देखी ताकहं सिर नावै।।

It is evident from the above-mentioned description that the various sects (Panths), which are prevalent and who do not have the path of true bhakti as told by God Kabir, are all inspired by Kaal. Therefore, a wise man should adopt a path of bhakti after in-depth consideration because a human life is invaluable and one does not get it again and again. God Kabir says that —

कबीर मानुष जन्म दुर्लभ है, मिले न बारम्बार।
तरूवर से पत्ता टूट गिरे, बहुर न लगता डारि।।

Meaning: - Kabir Ji has said that a human life is very rare. It is not attained again and again. Like, a leaf after falling from a tree, does not attach to it again; similarly, after death a living being can not attain the same body. Therefore do the bhakti of Purna Parmatma according to the scriptures while you are alive.


about Sant Rampal Ji

Jagat Guru Tatvadarshi Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj is a Complete Saint who gives true worship and imparts the true mantras to his devotees.